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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
一星给上海话，听着真是十分亲切，一星给三位女演员，一星给最后那一幕。这部电影按上海话说就是蛮灵的，但请男演员做好身材管理，我不想看三个女人围着猪头三转。
格洛丽亚看完《爱情神话》后发的朋友圈完全就是我的心声了。
Reality is not a Fellini film，但电影里甚至有人跟你聊费里尼
哪里像伍迪.艾伦。小老头的挖苦、调侃、碎碎念背后，是知道分子的愤世嫉俗。你可以看到他骨子里对这个世界的厌倦，他的揭露看似无伤大雅，其实对人物全无同情。而《爱情神话》的底色是对市井的原宥，满满都是细致入微的体谅。其实倒更像独立制作里，专拍中产都市题材的诺亚·鲍姆巴赫，你看他那个群像撕逼、时而穿插些幽默笔触暴露愚蠢的调调里，反而对人物有慈悲。
李小姐的那一夜不过是断了高跟的名牌鞋，格洛瑞亚的那一夜只能是需要收款的画作，蓓蓓的那一夜或许是鲫鱼汤多加的调料。她们围坐在一起，听老乌讲起他的那一夜，原来爱情可以是男人一生的海啸，倾覆一座城的波涛。已经活到了不会为一张素描而心动的年纪，爱情终究属于神话，不如护手霜和点心值得回味。
评分虚高了吧……其实节奏挺乱的，讲了半天啥都想讲点，但并没有讲好。哪有什么女性群像，哪有什么女性视角，说两句自以为女性爱听的话就觉得自己不一样了，可实质上并没有什么内涵。很多地方和整部电影风格很违和，比如两女一男在美术馆那段，儿子化妆讲知识那段。说白了也是最近的院线电影都不怎么样，观众的评分也就宽容了。
这是拍给上海人看的电影吗？嗯，是的。这是上海中年爷叔的生活吗？不是，翻转过来，是献给都市女性的电影。（迷影梗很多，女性主义梗也不少，感觉导演后台很硬的样子）
费里尼的魂灵不但以文字图画的形式飘逸各处，倪虹洁在KTV见徐峥那一段，更有费式歌剧般磅礴的怪异欲念（两个女人和徐峥谈画展的光影布局也是）。孤男寡女，徐峥追逐马伊琍只是推进故事的动因，倪虹洁和周野芒的老乌才是这部电影的精神（老乌和索菲亚罗兰的故事应该取材自北京慈善大亨李春平），只不过他们一个在声称自己足够危险却在独处时收敛张扬，一个讲述自己的故事并为之心折却又推倒否认，遮掩真实免得自己像个笑话，编导没停在那里自怨自艾，有闲有心情的中年友谊才显得动人，徐峥和周野芒闹矛盾，足足用了一组镜头表示他们不愿见面，片尾一班朋友看老乌不愿触碰的《爱情神话》，一个个昏昏欲睡中主线剧情的心电图恢复跃动，这是对这段友谊最好的祭奠了。几个出人意料的转折处理的顺滑（比如儿子的性取向），音乐、调度等环节都有巧思，看得舒服
摘自长评： “本片的宣传点之一是女性主义，但如果把这看成一个女权故事，那倪虹洁应该睡黄明昊啊，真的会有人在女权故事里想睡徐峥黄磊吗” 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
我可能是完全不灵的那批观众，所谓的生活气息离我太远了，只觉得聒噪和做作。
#电影院# 并不像伍迪艾伦，还以为看了部侯麦
明白导演想举重若轻，却没感受到那份举重若轻，总感觉劲没到位。
你以为是欧洲迷影，其实恰好是三四十年代中国电影的路子。
两度为老乌和他的故事落泪😭😭
夹在一堆上海中年大妈里观影，你别说氛围还真的好哈哈哈哈哈哈哈!好欢乐!
调调，节奏，故事感和生活感都调和的恰到好处，多一分做作匠气，少一分俗套琐碎，难得的正是不知有意无意间呈现出的又拙又巧的lovely。给人带来的观影愉悦感在个人匮乏的词库中找不到合适的形容词，可能就是上海人说的又灵又嗲吧。
人物和情境的打造简单高效精准，家宴和画廊两场戏太过瘾了，每句话都暗藏机锋。
开场给几个人物都加了前史，但后面这些设定哪儿去了？人物塑造不扎实，悬浮空中，与现实脱轨。中年人的爱情这个题材很好，可惜导演没有深入观察上海也没有深入调研中年人的情感生活。沪语对白只是个噱头，作为上海人没有看到沪语梗，也没看到俚语等地方特色的元素，换成普通话也是一样的效果。
在上海生活过的人可能更能感受这部电影给人带来的氛围感、共鸣感吧！（21年院线电影除了感谢爱情神话之外，就是隔壁雄狮了
意外的好看除去最后老乌那里故事不俗套，而且那种上海小资情调拿捏得很好，对于中年人爱情有了点向往。无论是街景还是主角住屋都让人喜欢，白虽然大腹便便但是会绘画、做饭，喜欢三位女士之间对话。
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